Analyze the Thinking Traces of GLM 5.1 & Qwen 3.6plus
Summary
A live test compared the performance of Qwen 3.6 Plus and GLM 5.1 large language models on an "elevator optimization problem" using the arena.ai platform. The task required finding the shortest path from floor 0 to 50 with specific mathematical button presses, limited energy/token resources, and various traps and time inversions. Initially, Qwen 3.6 Plus produced a 12-button press solution that overshot floor 50, while GLM 5.1 fell into a local minimum with a 2-minute, 42-second, longer sequence. After a hard constraint of 50 floors was enforced, GLM 5.1 unexpectedly found an optimal 8-step solution after nearly 8 minutes, attributed to a "lucky" statistical outcome. Qwen 3.6 Plus, despite self-correction attempts, struggled with validation and eventually entered a chaotic state, losing its reasoning capability and producing invalid, lengthy sequences.
Key takeaway
For AI Engineers evaluating LLMs for complex optimization or logical reasoning tasks, this comparison highlights the unpredictable nature of statistical models. You should implement robust validation steps and consider that optimal solutions might arise from chance, not consistent reasoning. Be prepared to provide explicit constraints and analyze reasoning traces to understand model behavior, especially when models enter chaotic states or local minima.
Key insights
LLM performance on complex optimization tasks can be highly variable and influenced by statistical chance.
Principles
- LLMs can get trapped in local minima.
- Hard constraints improve solution validity.
- Reasoning traces reveal internal processes.
Method
The test involved an elevator optimization problem with mathematical functions, resource limits, and traps, requiring causal reasoning and logic puzzle-solving, with reasoning traces analyzed for internal thought processes.
In practice
- Provide ample execution time for self-correction.
- Enforce hard constraints to guide LLM behavior.
- Analyze reasoning traces for debugging.
Topics
- GLM 5.1
- Qwen 3.6 Plus
- Elevator Optimization Problem
- LLM Reasoning
- Model Performance Analysis
Best for: AI Engineer, Research Scientist, AI Scientist, Machine Learning Engineer, NLP Engineer
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